madamedefur:

leftforbed:

slowlyintothelight:

so iron bull is a rapist and dorian is an alcoholic according to the fandom now?

lmfao, y’all are really reaching at this point

oh no dorian enjoys drinking like every other fucking character in the game, clearly that must mean he has a serious drinking problem the logic is flawless

and so what if dorian and bull’s first time together was whilst they were drinking, their relationship carried on after that when they were sober so it’s pretty obvious dorian had no problem with it or feels taken advantage of

tbh you’re the ones who are interpreting their relationship to be something it isn’t so don’t start getting pissed off at other people for not agreeing with you

i can’t deal with how bad this fandom is getting with this crap

First, Dorian IS an alcoholic. He’s the only character in the game who mentions drinking his pain away multiple times. He confesses to the inquisitor that he used to do that back in Tevinter - and it becomes obvious that he hasn’t changed, considering what he says after you complete the mission with his father — something about ‘drinking himself into a stupor’.

Second, no one said Bull “raped” Dorian. These are all speculations, implications that he ‘might have, probably didn’t but might’ve.’. We’ve heard nothing but banter, we didn’t see them fuck, we don’t know how /it/ happened.

We just view their relationship as extremely unhealthy.

Think about the sex scene between the Inquisitor and Iron Bull. Both sober, Bull asks the inquisitor multiple times if they (i.e. the inquisitor) were ready, because, honestly, Bull’s probably a lot to handle.

Humans are tiny compared to the qunari. Were I a qunari, I’d never fuck a tiny being while they’re drunk. I’d never fuck ANYONE while they’re drunk, for that matter, qunari or not. (unless it’s my girlfriend, we’re both drunk, and we’ve been dating for ages and trust each other)

Call me a pissbaby, I was sexually assaulted in the past, I’ve always been scared of commitments and I know a toxic, unhealthy relationship when I see one.

But back to Dorian/Bull. Bull talks about their bedroom adventures in public, which OBVIOUSLY makes Dorian uncomfortable, but that doesn’t make Bull stop. Even the flirting Bull does before they hook up makes Dorian uncomfortable.

Think about the Inquisitor/Dorian romance. They take things slow, the inquisitor is gentle, discreet, cares for Dorian, and doesn’t discuss what they do in public. Dorian - and that HAS BEEN CONFIRMED BY BIOWARE (i think it was mentioned in the guide) - coming from Tevinter, is used to hiding that he’s gay, he doesn’t feel comfortable discussing guys with other people. Inquisitor respects that, and takes things slow. Bull doesn’t.

Dorian is lonely and desperate for a relationship (despite thinking sex is all he’s ever gonna get). Which I consider the reason he falls for Bull. But what he really needs is a healthy relationship - one that the male inquisitor can offer.

all of this

do ppl not realise tho that like…. psychological or physiological dependence on alcohol (such as stress relief, comfort, oblivion etc) is literally textbook alcoholism

next you’re going to tell me oghren was just a funny guy who liked to get wasted on occasion and not someone with a severe alcohol addiction

i mean rly